Comments on: Amazon Spends Over A Year Developing Movie Download Service Then Shackles It With Absurd Restrictions http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/ The Brave New World of Anti-Engineering Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:26:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jason http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-2/#comment-122604 Jason Fri, 12 Nov 2010 06:14:38 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-122604 Amazon Unbox is still complete crap of a service. Even their streaming service is terrible with consistent slow connection speeds even when accessing from a network with 50 mb/s download capacity. In short, three years on, Amazon Video on Demand and Unbox have hardly progressed technology wise whatsoever. C R A P. Amazon Unbox is still complete crap of a service.

Even their streaming service is terrible with consistent slow connection speeds even when accessing from a network with 50 mb/s download capacity.

In short, three years on, Amazon Video on Demand and Unbox have hardly progressed technology wise whatsoever.

C R A P.

]]> By: Speed Pacer http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-2/#comment-57315 Speed Pacer Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:14:48 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-57315 lol... well, this explains it. I uninstalled Unbox Video and they deleted my movie. Fortunately, it was only one Southpark episode that I purchased for 1.99. I'd be really pissed if I'd built an entire library. Still, I think such a drastic measure should've been made more clear and outlined in bigger print before I purchased the movie. Won't be installing it again, thanks for the 411! DJSP lol… well, this explains it. I uninstalled Unbox Video and they deleted my movie.

Fortunately, it was only one Southpark episode that I purchased for 1.99. I’d be really pissed if I’d built an entire library. Still, I think such a drastic measure should’ve been made more clear and outlined in bigger print before I purchased the movie.

Won’t be installing it again, thanks for the 411!

DJSP

]]> By: Mat@Shanghai http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-2/#comment-46937 Mat@Shanghai Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:30:11 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-46937 Honestly, guys come to Shanghai. I mean, I used to download but now Im just going out on the streets to buy. and its cheap. i bought about 50 dvds in 2 weeks, just because I can, as a Student, easily afford it. I mean, the best one cost about 3 Dollars per dvd. Thats amazing. And the quality is really good. If they were to introduce something like this, but legally, in Europe or America, they would sell billions of dvds. Every lousy child would buy a copy of their favourite disney movie and nobody would really bother with pirating them, as they are cheaper then a pack of smokes. So, here is the point. As DVDs seem to be partially price inelastic, the rre seems to be some kind of baselayer demand, the rest is destined by the price. Ürice goes up, demand goes down and vice versa. So why not try to sell it cheaper then cigarettes. And I don't mean shitty old movies. No, the newest release, which came just out on dvd. Perhaps a week later, but thats it. No strings attached. And the FBI could save a lot of money but not always handing over $250,000 for some small time copier. Honestly, I think the film industry needs to rethink their strategy. And Amazon, well not suprising. If they would offer a service better then teir main offer, well, they would go down. Just the amount of infrastructure they have (computers, storage, contracts with delivery firms etc.) could probably ruin them. So farewell ripped movies of 700mb size. Welcome DVD-9 5.1 Surround Sound movies, in three languages and about 50 subtitles. Globalization is, if you can read the title of a movie you find in a shitty small dvd store in China in a language you know, for example german, french, polish, or whatever (I exclude english because you will probably find it in 95% of the cases) Honestly, guys come to Shanghai. I mean, I used to download but now Im just going out on the streets to buy. and its cheap. i bought about 50 dvds in 2 weeks, just because I can, as a Student, easily afford it. I mean, the best one cost about 3 Dollars per dvd. Thats amazing. And the quality is really good. If they were to introduce something like this, but legally, in Europe or America, they would sell billions of dvds. Every lousy child would buy a copy of their favourite disney movie and nobody would really bother with pirating them, as they are cheaper then a pack of smokes. So, here is the point. As DVDs seem to be partially price inelastic, the rre seems to be some kind of baselayer demand, the rest is destined by the price. Ürice goes up, demand goes down and vice versa. So why not try to sell it cheaper then cigarettes. And I don’t mean shitty old movies. No, the newest release, which came just out on dvd. Perhaps a week later, but thats it. No strings attached. And the FBI could save a lot of money but not always handing over $250,000 for some small time copier. Honestly, I think the film industry needs to rethink their strategy. And Amazon, well not suprising. If they would offer a service better then teir main offer, well, they would go down. Just the amount of infrastructure they have (computers, storage, contracts with delivery firms etc.) could probably ruin them. So farewell ripped movies of 700mb size. Welcome DVD-9 5.1 Surround Sound movies, in three languages and about 50 subtitles. Globalization is, if you can read the title of a movie you find in a shitty small dvd store in China in a language you know, for example german, french, polish, or whatever (I exclude english because you will probably find it in 95% of the cases)

]]> By: Markets and Investments » Bloggers go nuts over Amazon.com’s “Unbox” video service http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-2/#comment-39428 Markets and Investments » Bloggers go nuts over Amazon.com’s “Unbox” video service Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:27:40 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-39428 [...] We’ve had a few recent posts on Amazon’s new Unbox video service from Vince Chan and Matthew Himler. I felt compelled, as an AMZN shareholder, to look into the deep abyss of this new service from blogger community perspective (the in the know crowd almost always) and see how this new service stacked up. Amazon.com is on the, er, hot trail of video on demand over the net, and Mark Cuban has a few thoughts on the subject. He brings basic economic principles into the mix while pondering on a possible Apple competitive annoucement tomorrow, September 12. I waited a few days after the release to get the first impressions from people around the web. Guess what — they weren’t good. It’s fitting that the lead movie right now over at Amazon’s Unbox service is “V for Vendetta”. How wickedly appropriate.What do bloggers have to say? A lot, and most if downright ugly. Blog entries over at Cnet and Uninnovate are pretty harsh in their treatments of this new Unbox service. Tom Merritt at Cnet, specifically, seems quite mad at the new service, and after listening to a podcast (MP3 link) where he describes the product, I for one can’t blame him a bit. He went through a miniature nightmare with Unbox, and it was just released! [...] [...] We’ve had a few recent posts on Amazon’s new Unbox video service from Vince Chan and Matthew Himler. I felt compelled, as an AMZN shareholder, to look into the deep abyss of this new service from blogger community perspective (the in the know crowd almost always) and see how this new service stacked up. Amazon.com is on the, er, hot trail of video on demand over the net, and Mark Cuban has a few thoughts on the subject. He brings basic economic principles into the mix while pondering on a possible Apple competitive annoucement tomorrow, September 12. I waited a few days after the release to get the first impressions from people around the web. Guess what — they weren’t good. It’s fitting that the lead movie right now over at Amazon’s Unbox service is “V for Vendetta”. How wickedly appropriate.What do bloggers have to say? A lot, and most if downright ugly. Blog entries over at Cnet and Uninnovate are pretty harsh in their treatments of this new Unbox service. Tom Merritt at Cnet, specifically, seems quite mad at the new service, and after listening to a podcast (MP3 link) where he describes the product, I for one can’t blame him a bit. He went through a miniature nightmare with Unbox, and it was just released! [...]

]]> By: medix http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-2/#comment-35029 medix Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:56:20 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-35029 I happen to work for amazon.com and sure where I don't feel that everything they do is fair, but I don't think that any fortune 500 company does have to do anything fair. The policies that amazon.com follows for its unbox service are all closely monitored by content providers and the MPAA. I am loyal to no one but the next time any of you look to point the finger because you cant do everything you want remember something; you have to always take into consideration that there may be someone else pulling the marionette's strings. I happen to work for amazon.com and sure where I don’t feel that everything they do is fair, but I don’t think that any fortune 500 company does have to do anything fair. The policies that amazon.com follows for its unbox service are all closely monitored by content providers and the MPAA. I am loyal to no one but the next time any of you look to point the finger because you cant do everything you want remember something; you have to always take into consideration that there may be someone else pulling the marionette’s strings.

]]> By: ds http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-2/#comment-25909 ds Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:16:32 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-25909 two experiences w/unbox..and then..none further: 1) was living overseas...thought a great chance to see an english language film...oh, but it won't run because you are overseas. lucky they refunded my $2. gee, thanks amazon. 2) back in the states, tried again. download quit. amazon says "already downloaded". accidentally bought it again. still didn't download. eventually started, but by that time, it was too late at night to watch a film, and then unbox says it'll take 3 hours to download. WHAT? I have to wait 3 hours for a download? I can go to the video store and back in less than 15 minutes! I thought this was streaming video...I could buy, then start watching. Ok, now I've been waiting for several days for the hefty download to uh...download. I still have an "hour and a half" to wait (although it's literally been 3 days downloading). screw u amazon, this is STUPID. two experiences w/unbox..and then..none further:

1) was living overseas…thought a great chance to see an english language film…oh, but it won’t run because you are overseas. lucky they refunded my $2. gee, thanks amazon.

2) back in the states, tried again. download quit. amazon says “already downloaded”. accidentally bought it again. still didn’t download. eventually started, but by that time, it was too late at night to watch a film, and then unbox says it’ll take 3 hours to download.

WHAT? I have to wait 3 hours for a download? I can go to the video store and back in less than 15 minutes!

I thought this was streaming video…I could buy, then start watching.

Ok, now I’ve been waiting for several days for the hefty download to uh…download. I still have an “hour and a half” to wait (although it’s literally been 3 days downloading).

screw u amazon, this is STUPID.

]]> By: Davis Freeberg’s Digital Connection - Nearly Half Of All Consumers Not Interested In Downloading http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1294 Davis Freeberg’s Digital Connection - Nearly Half Of All Consumers Not Interested In Downloading Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:17:08 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-1294 [...] On the other hand, there could be hope if the studios get their acts together and offer a more compelling downloading product. I think that part of why this number is so high is in large part because of how weaksauce the current downloading systems are. First they give you limited selection, then they make you pay almost as much as a DVD, just to rent a downloaded film and finally they make it a royal pain in the neck if you want to watch it on your TV set. Oh and to top it all, for doing the right thing and buying your movie instead of stealing it off the bit torrent networks, you get a large heaping dose of DRM with your file. No wonder half of the population isn’t interested in this. [...] [...] On the other hand, there could be hope if the studios get their acts together and offer a more compelling downloading product. I think that part of why this number is so high is in large part because of how weaksauce the current downloading systems are. First they give you limited selection, then they make you pay almost as much as a DVD, just to rent a downloaded film and finally they make it a royal pain in the neck if you want to watch it on your TV set. Oh and to top it all, for doing the right thing and buying your movie instead of stealing it off the bit torrent networks, you get a large heaping dose of DRM with your file. No wonder half of the population isn’t interested in this. [...]

]]> By: DT3 : weblog » movie news - buyer beware http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-1/#comment-529 DT3 : weblog » movie news - buyer beware Sun, 12 Nov 2006 14:51:46 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-529 [...] There has been a lot of debate but the general consensus is that both services are so crippled by Digital Rights Management (DRM) software that most people would be better off buying the DVD. A full overview can be found here. We have a slightly different concern: Movie files are BIG. Which means that they take a while to download (for a real testimony read Cormac O’Reilly’s account on the register). It also means that downloading a movie will eat into any ISP imposed data limit. At the time of writing BT, Orange and Pipex all offer 2Gb with their entry level broadband products and Virgin offers 3Gb. A trip to Amazon shows that Brokeback Mountain runs to 136 minutes but is 2.2Gb in size. So that’s your monthly limit gone then…1 episode of 24 is 804 Mb, giving users 2 of the 24 hours before they exceed their monthly allowance!At the moment most Broadband users don’t even know they have a limit… but they will! Thnking about it ... [...] [...] There has been a lot of debate but the general consensus is that both services are so crippled by Digital Rights Management (DRM) software that most people would be better off buying the DVD. A full overview can be found here. We have a slightly different concern: Movie files are BIG. Which means that they take a while to download (for a real testimony read Cormac O’Reilly’s account on the register). It also means that downloading a movie will eat into any ISP imposed data limit. At the time of writing BT, Orange and Pipex all offer 2Gb with their entry level broadband products and Virgin offers 3Gb. A trip to Amazon shows that Brokeback Mountain runs to 136 minutes but is 2.2Gb in size. So that’s your monthly limit gone then…1 episode of 24 is 804 Mb, giving users 2 of the 24 hours before they exceed their monthly allowance!At the moment most Broadband users don’t even know they have a limit… but they will! Thnking about it … [...]

]]> By: me http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-1/#comment-466 me Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:34:19 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-466 Wow, stunningly dumb. If it costs the same price, then where is the advantage, even if it was free of DRM? Order the DVD next day, and most people are going to have it on a disc in the player faster than starting a download that will use your month's limit, then burning a disc that, at the end of the day is a disc you paid for sepeartely. You dont get a cover, either, and then it's encrypted so it wont work! And it has cost you MORE! Wow, stunningly dumb. If it costs the same price, then where is the advantage, even if it was free of DRM? Order the DVD next day, and most people are going to have it on a disc in the player faster than starting a download that will use your month’s limit, then burning a disc that, at the end of the day is a disc you paid for sepeartely. You dont get a cover, either, and then it’s encrypted so it wont work! And it has cost you MORE!

]]> By: Jason Frand http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/comment-page-1/#comment-119 Jason Frand Wed, 18 Oct 2006 03:49:36 +0000 http://www.uninnovate.com/2006/09/08/amazon-spends-over-a-year-developing-movie-download-service-then-shackles-it-with-absurd-restrictions-4/#comment-119 Confirming that the most recent version of Amazon Unbox detects the FairUse4WM process, and proceedes to delete content downloaded from Amazon Unbox regardless of whether or not the film has ever been viewed. Very nasty! Confirming that the most recent version of Amazon Unbox detects the FairUse4WM process, and proceedes to delete content downloaded from Amazon Unbox regardless of whether or not the film has ever been viewed. Very nasty!

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